Comments on: ct_collective (cassette tape collective) http://dynamicmedianetwork.org/collectives/ct_collective-cassette-tape-collective Dynamic media: a research project about the co-evolving transformations of creation, code and life. This research was supported under the Australian Research Council's Discovery Projects funding scheme. Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Mat Wall-Smith http://dynamicmedianetwork.org/collectives/ct_collective-cassette-tape-collective/comment-page-1#comment-1998 Mat Wall-Smith Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:14:48 +0000 http://researchhub.cofa.unsw.edu.au/ccap/2007/07/06/ct_collective-cassette-tape-collective/#comment-1998 Yep..i really love the whole dynamic of a simple interaction that emerges thanks to the incipiencies/constraints/affordances of an older materiality folding into a place where those constraints are effectively...deterritorialized There are obviously lots of ways the old model is given new legs here as well - but without (yet) sacrificing the simplicity that the original medium demanded. I've talked alot about web2.0 and so on.....but I think it is likely a collective like this would be fractured and complicated...would lose its coherence...with the addition of those 'social network' divergences. In fact there is a bigger point here about the value of *coherence* in distributed, generative forms. I think Web2.0 as a design phenomena can be critiqued in a most interesting way from the perspective of 'generative coherence' or 'dynamic coherence' - rather than from the tedious 'capital v. community', 'public v. corporate', 'open/closed', 'read only/read write' stuff that I read near everyday now. Yep..i really love the whole dynamic of a simple interaction that emerges thanks to the incipiencies/constraints/affordances of an older materiality folding into a place where those constraints are effectively…deterritorialized There are obviously lots of ways the old model is given new legs here as well – but without (yet) sacrificing the simplicity that the original medium demanded. I’ve talked alot about web2.0 and so on…..but I think it is likely a collective like this would be fractured and complicated…would lose its coherence…with the addition of those ‘social network’ divergences.

In fact there is a bigger point here about the value of *coherence* in distributed, generative forms. I think Web2.0 as a design phenomena can be critiqued in a most interesting way from the perspective of ‘generative coherence’ or ‘dynamic coherence’ – rather than from the tedious ‘capital v. community’, ‘public v. corporate’, ‘open/closed’, ‘read only/read write’ stuff that I read near everyday now.

]]> By: Andrew Murphie http://dynamicmedianetwork.org/collectives/ct_collective-cassette-tape-collective/comment-page-1#comment-1997 Andrew Murphie Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:13:45 +0000 http://researchhub.cofa.unsw.edu.au/ccap/2007/07/06/ct_collective-cassette-tape-collective/#comment-1997 That's really interesting Mat - I guess what I find most interesting are two things. First up, the choice to do things like this - we have the choice to move back to simplicity these days, to re-energise older parts of the media ecologies - this is where the "media" evolution idea doesn't necessarily make sense - there isn't necessarily a fittest way to survive. Second, however, and probably more interestingly, is the return to a complex matter - that is, something (a tape recording) in which the material form itself has a density and complexity resists the ability to do too many things with it at once ... and that might be part of the attraction. That’s really interesting Mat – I guess what I find most interesting are two things. First up, the choice to do things like this – we have the choice to move back to simplicity these days, to re-energise older parts of the media ecologies – this is where the “media” evolution idea doesn’t necessarily make sense – there isn’t necessarily a fittest way to survive. Second, however, and probably more interestingly, is the return to a complex matter – that is, something (a tape recording) in which the material form itself has a density and complexity resists the ability to do too many things with it at once … and that might be part of the attraction.

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